Nejde naštartovať bliká P symbol na DSG prevodovke...

Peter007 · Příspěvek od **Peter007** » 22 říj 2015, 07:36

Ahoj Profíci

No neviem či to patrí do tohoto tématu ale mám takýto problém.
Mám škoda octavia 2 FL rok výroby 2009 2.0 diesel 103 KW DSG 6 stupňový.

No problém je, že auto išlo normálne akurát auto teraz stálo na dvore cca 2 týždne. Po dvoch týždňoch som sadol do auta a auto naštartovalo ale na palubnej doske svieti stále kontrolka motora a ESP. Na maxidote svieti ESP nefunkčné. Potom som chcel ísť preč ale nemohol som sa pohnúť lebo mi nejde vyradiť páku z polohy P. A symbol P bliká.

Kuna tam nebola!!!

Dnes som skúsil načítať cez diagnostiku chyby. Log prikladám nižšie. Po tom čo som načítal chyby som chcel vymazať chyby ale sú tam stále. V manuále som sa dočítal, že páku je možné odistiť aj núdzovo. Núdzový vypínač som našiel aj sa mi podarilo páku presunúť do iných polôh ale v každej polohe blikali jednotlivé symboly. Keď som potom páku presunúl do polohy P tak sa tam zase zasekla. Nakoniec už auto nejde naštartovať.

Skúsil som ešte odpojiť baterku na nejaký čas cca 20 min ale nepomohlo. vie mi niekto prosím poradiť kde hľadať chyby pretože z výpisu diagnostiky moc múdry nie som.

Ďakujem za pomoc

Log:

Wednesday,21,October,2015,19:28:36:62939
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.2
Data version: 20120126

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Chassis Type: 1K0
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 47 52 55 56 62 72
77

VIN: TMBBE61Z3A8009479

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010

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Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.lbl
Part No SW: 03G 906 021 TC HW: 03G 906 021 AN
Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000AG 2048
Revision: --H11--- Serial number:
Coding: 0000078
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00999
VCID: 73E5394712AE09B

3 Faults Found:
005670 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1626 - 000 - Missing Message from TCU
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 21
Mileage: 218818 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.14.24
Time: 17:28:17

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 10.87 V
Bin. Bits: 00101000
Bin. Bits: 00000000
Bin. Bits: 10000100

005669 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1625 - 000 - Implausible Message from TCU - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 218818 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.14.24
Time: 18:21:06

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.24 V
Bin. Bits: 00101011
Bin. Bits: 00000000
Bin. Bits: 00000100

005669 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1625 - 000 - Implausible Message from TCU - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 218818 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.14.24
Time: 18:21:06

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.24 V
Bin. Bits: 00101011
Bin. Bits: 00000000
Bin. Bits: 00000100

Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0

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Address 02: Auto Trans
Cannot be reached

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----) Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AP HW: 1K0 907 379 AP
Component: ESP MK60EC1 H45 0107
Revision: 00H45001
Coding: 113B401C09220003880F02EB90220042AD00
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00999
VCID: 800FE68B1318A23

3 Faults Found:
02214 - Tire Pressure Warning
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 161
Mileage: 217882 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2006.14.16
Time: 18:14:19

Freeze Frame:
Count: 0
Count: 32768
Count: 4608
Count: 397
Count: 51499
Count: 1
Count: 0
Count: 0

02781 - ASR/ESP Button (E256)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 156
Mileage: 218818 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.14.24
Time: 17:34:32

Freeze Frame:
Count: 16386
Count: 12
Count: 12800
Count: 156
Count: 50944
Count: 0
Count: 0
Count: 10752

01315 - Transmission Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 156
Mileage: 218818 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.14.24
Time: 17:28:18

Freeze Frame:
Count: 16384
Count: 14
Count: 12288
Count: 8195
Count: 39168
Count: 0
Count: 0
Count: 768

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 3T0 907 044 AL HW: 3T0 907 044 AL
Component: Climatronic H14 0302
Revision: 00004001
Coding: 0000000000
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01001
ROD: EV_Climatronic_SK35.rod
VCID: 7CF7127BF7F0463

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 937 087 D HW: 1K0 937 087 D
Component: BCM PQ35 H 103 0537
Revision: 00103 AC
Coding: 40180AB8F00508C04008008411001124030000AE626D85605C4440000000
Shop #: WSC 22811 654 76757
VCID: 326BFC436D34403

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Z1 955 119 C Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer 14060 22 0601
Coding: 00D7B7

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
Component: RLS 160609 05 54 0402
Coding: 0730ED

3 Faults Found:
00924 - Relay for Headlamp Cleaning System (J39)
009 - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 118
Mileage: 217828 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2006.14.05
Time: 13:34:56

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 11.85 V
ON
ON
Term 50 Off
OFF
OFF

02723 - Control Circuit for Power Supply Relay (Terminal 50)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101100
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 181
Mileage: 218461 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.14.02
Time: 16:30:39

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 11.60 V
OFF
ON
Term 50 On
ON
ON

01315 - Transmission Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 145
Reset counter: 156
Mileage: 218818 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.14.24
Time: 17:28:18

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Voltage: 11.30 V
ON
ON
Term 50 Off
OFF
ON

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels: 1Z0-919-475-V1.clb
Part No SW: 1Z0 919 475 C HW: 1Z0 919 475 A
Component: PARKHILFE 8K H06 0006
Revision: -------- Serial number: 66540914304446
Coding: 100101
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 4189A38FD892EBB

1 Fault Found:
01315 - Transmission Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 187
Reset counter: 156
Mileage: 218818 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2007.14.24
Time: 17:28:19

Freeze Frame:
Temperature: 10.0°C

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T HW: 1K0 909 605 T
Component: Q6 AIRBAG VW8 020 2300
Revision: 05020000 Serial number: 0038PD2E6NJR
Coding: 0020790
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 3D71DF7F646A8FB

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CH HW: 1K0 953 549 CH
Component: J0527 055 0111
Coding: 0001732
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 7AFB146335C4783

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3T0 959 537 Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-URO H07 0011
Coding: 00000130
Shop #: WSC 00000

1 Fault Found:
00002 - Transmission Control Unit
004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 1Z0 920 843 D HW: 1Z0 920 843 D
Component: KOMBI H21 0110
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 110F00
Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00999
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04040
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK35.rod
VCID: 3979CB6FB842B3B

1 Fault Found:
12648704 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
U1111 00 [009] - -
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 199
Reset counter: 156
Mileage: 218818 km
Date: 2071.14.24
Time: 17:28:15

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 AA HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H16 0222
Revision: H16 Serial number: 4020K0961400DF
Coding: EDA17F06100602001302
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 66C35013517CEC3

1 Fault Found:
01315 - Transmission Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 201
Reset counter: 156
Mileage: 218818 km
Time Indication: 0

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 1Z0 920 843 D HW: 1Z0 920 843 D
Component: IMMO H21 0110
Serial number: 00000000000000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03004
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK35.rod
VCID: 3979CB6FB842B3B

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl
Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 AA HW: 1T0 959 701 AA
Component: Tuer-SG 009 2113
Coding: 0004342
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 76E3005301DC1C3

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.070 H08 1901
Shop #: WSC 73430 000 90108
VCID: 3561C75F5C5A57B

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (R12) Labels: 3T0-035-456.clb
Part No SW: 3T0 035 456 HW: 3T0 035 456
Component: KonzernAmp10K H06 0340
Revision: -------- Serial number: BP218290404362
ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst10KanalBNO2 A01003
ROD: EV_AudioVerst10KanalBNO2.rod
VCID: EED3A833318CA43

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX3.lbl
Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 S HW: 1T0 959 702 S
Component: Tuer-SG 009 2113
Coding: 0004342
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 489FBEAB3BA8DA3

1 Fault Found:
00929 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Passenger Side (F221)
008 - Implausible Signal

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Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 C HW: 5M0 907 357 C
Component: AFS-Steuergeraet 0142
Revision: 00H04000 Serial number:
Coding: 1507354
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 3467FA5B57204E3

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B
Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l 0005
Coding: 00000023

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B
Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r 0005
Coding: 00000023

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503) Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
Part No SW: 1Z0 035 156 F HW: 1Z0 035 156 F
Component: BOLERO 008 0053
Revision: 0A001001 Serial number: SKZ1Z3I8162066
Coding: 0D0200000000
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 3561C75F9C5A57B

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
Part No SW: 5K0 959 703 A HW: 5K0 959 703 A
Component: Tuer-SG 007 2101
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012544
VCID: 326BFC43AD34403

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
Part No SW: 5K0 959 704 A HW: 5K0 959 704 A
Component: Tuer-SG 007 2101
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012544
VCID: 3365F947522E49B

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone Labels: 3C0-035-730.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 035 730 B HW: 5N0 035 730 B
Component: J412 8502
Revision: 00015000 Serial number: 0000B7A079907
Coding: 0020121
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 275D1D1796F635B

2 Faults Found:
00385 - Positive Output Audio Channel for Speech/Telephone
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 118
Mileage: 217828 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2006.14.05
Time: 13:37:35

00386 - Negative Output Audio Channel for Speech/Telephone
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 118
Mileage: 217828 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2006.14.05
Time: 13:37:35

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Wednesday,21,October,2015,19:32:41:62939
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.2
Data version: 20120126

slovacek.milos · Příspěvek od **slovacek.milos** » 22 říj 2015, 09:48

převodovka má nemocnou řídící jednotku tak i to asi nikdy nepojede

Peter007 · Příspěvek od **Peter007** » 22 říj 2015, 10:49

Ahoj Miloš

Ako to myslíš že nikdy nepojede? Mám to zapáliť

? Nie teraz vážne kde mam hľadať tú riadiacu jednotku? Aký je ďalší postup? Na internete som našiel, že nejaký pán mal stejný problém a mal poškodený kábel.
http://forum.octaviaclub.cz/index.php?showtopic=17709

Koľko stojí daná jednotka keď by som ju mal meniť? Nemôže to ESP blokovať tú prevodovku alebo nejaký pokazený spínač na brzdovom pedály?

Ďakujem za pomoc

george40 · Příspěvek od **george40** » 22 říj 2015, 13:00

- řídící jednotku máš přímo na převodovce a vede k ní kabeláž - tu bych prohlídl jako první, jestli není někde prodřená/prokousaná ( je jedno jestli od kuny nebo myši, nebo od zubu času-koroze). Žádný vadný spínač na brzdě nebo někde jinde nehledej. ŘJ od DSG nemá žádnou komunikaci (gateway ji nevidí) takže je buď bez napájení (vadná pojistka, uhnilý drát ) nebo někde upadlej datovej vodič, nebo ta nejhorší varianta - umřela...

Vici · Příspěvek od **Vici** » 22 říj 2015, 18:08

A co pojistky?

slovacek.milos · Příspěvek od **slovacek.milos** » 22 říj 2015, 18:25

[quote="Peter007"]Ahoj Miloš

no přesně podpal to

já ten tvůj automatický běh nemohu vůbec pochopit

ten automat stím komunikuješ ale co čtu tak je mrtvý

tak když zadám dres O2 tak by mala být odpovět řj, O2 neodpovídá a poto ti ti nenastartuje

Peter007 · Příspěvek od **Peter007** » 25 říj 2015, 20:53

Ahoj george40

Takže mal si pravdu isiel som po kabeláži a boli uhnité 2 káble. po opravené všetko funguje.

Problém vyriešený.

Miloš takže tvoj odhad že je špatná jednotka na prevodovke bol špatný ale aj tak dik